Franconian Beer Message Board

Bier Ohne Grenzen (Beer Without Borders)
Posted by Barry on 2011-01-20 02:08:42
Jimbo: "I think that UK people will say "a pub is a place, while a bar is the object in a pub where the beer is dispensed". I think that is more or less correct, in that it is common to say (or ask plaintively) 'Who's going to the bar?' - meaning 'It's your round, so get off your backside and get up!' Equivalent to 'ausschank'? However, bar can have another couple of connotations: 1. It's commonly used to refer to a place in a hotel where drink is served 'the hotel bar', as opposed to the dining room, etc. 2. The place where the cheapest drink is served, which used to be a men-only (not any more), spit and sawdust kind of place. However, in Manchester, this room is more often referred to as 'the vault', for reasons unknown to me. In the old pubs (are there any left now?), many had glass doors with the names of the rooms etched on them, such as lounge, snug and vault. 3. I think, for many English people, bar has the feeling of a small, single room kind of place, more of a continental feel. 'Let's go to the pub' would be more common than 'Let's go the bar'. I was thinking (longingly) of 'schwemme' yesterday (is it der, die or das schwemme?). There used to be an equivalent of this area in many English pubs. I recall two very good examples in my youth, one, the Crown and Anchor, Hilton Street, in the centre of Manchester, and the second, the Farmer's Arms, in the suburb of Northendon. You entered through the front door into a long corridor that led to a back room. Off the corridor, were one or more other rooms. But the corridor was also equipped with little hatches through which you could buy a pint. These corridors were quite popular drinking areas, not quite as large and sophisticated as the Schwemme at Mahrs or Fassla, but they served a similar function.