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Comparing Bland Beer
Posted by Jason on 2013-04-11 02:46:56
I would say that the Edelstoff is far better on gravity and wouldn't entertain it in bottled form. I would say the same of the Helles. I would also say the same about many a Franconian beer too. That's just a personal preference. I'm not sure of the relevance of comparing Augustiner with "macro" beer from anywhere, or Franconian beer for that matter, I for one never overly compare it with the latter. I have had bottles of all of the German beers you mention as 'comparisons' and they are all good, not outstanding, but good (and fyi Max Joseph is not Tegernsee Hell as you say). Of course a lot of Franconian beer is far better than Augustiner, but Augustiner is far, far, far better than any macro beer I have ever had. I think that you should consider yourself very lucky to live where you do (as I'm sure you do). I can't get any beer of any description from Germany in Jersey, postal delivery is a minefield of red tape; I have to order through the likes of Bierzwerg, take a ferry and pick it up from my parents' house in France. So you might understand that when I fly into Munich I am pretty happy to have a few litres of Augustiner vom holz fass which I consider far superior to anything I can get at home on draft and a pretty good drop either way. Beer is like a drug (alcohol aside) - the more quality stuff you drink the more you look down your nose at anything that isn't of that standard. I went to Uni in a city awash with great beer and I developed a snobbery about breweries and beers I didn't consider making the grade. What I wouldn't give to have some of those beers I turned my nose up in my (rubbish) local right now. Nowadays at home I am just happy with a beer that is in good condition. There is a humility in that I think. More significantly it illustrates that beer is all about context. I have been lucky enough to travel the world and drink great, good and bad beer in many places; if I constantly compared them with my favorite Franconian, US or Belgian beer, I think I would have had a pretty miserable time beer wise. Believe me, a litre of Spaten Hell in Oz tasted like the best beer ever simply because it had been so long since I'd had a German draft beer. I probably wouldn't drink it if I was in Munich though which is snobbery on my part but illustrates again the importance of context. Of course everyone is entitled to their own thoughts and to share them, that's what a forum is for. But, ultimately by giving your opinion you are only doing exactly the same as what the people of Rate Beer do, opinions based on your own tastes, experiences and context. And why shouldn't you? And why shouldn't they? Beer is for everyone to enjoy and comment on, to their mate next to them or on a website, not just "professionally trained brewery personnel or beer historians". I'm fairly sure that the brewers at Coors or Beck's are "professionally trained" - it doesn't mean to say I want to drink their beer.
 
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                   Comparing Bland Beer by Nick B. on  2013-04-11 03:22:57
                     Comparing Bland Beer by Nick B. on  2013-04-11 03:29:25
                   R8beer by Nick B. on  2013-04-11 03:35:18
                       Comparing Bland Beer by Jason on  2013-04-11 04:44:42
                     Comparing Bland Beer by Mark Andersen on  2013-04-11 04:54:05
                       Comparing Bland Beer by Jason on  2013-04-11 06:51:49
                       Comparing Bland Beer by Nick B. on  2013-04-11 05:30:04
                         Comparing Bland Beer by Nick B. on  2013-04-11 09:06:45
                         Comparing Bland Beer by Nick B. on  2013-04-11 09:09:34
                           Comparing Bland Beer by Mike B. on  2013-04-11 11:57:45