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Bier Ohne Grenzen (Beer Without Borders)
Posted by Nick B. on 2011-01-19 00:52:07
I'm ignorant of diabetes, so I assume this means you can't drink alcohol on an empty stomach? And of course I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek about the rest. I've been to plenty of places where I wouldn't dare to eat anything even if something were on offer. This brings up something I experienced when I moved from Minnesconsin to Oregon nearly 20 years ago. In the former, establishments (Wirtshäuser) licenced to serve alcohol of any kind can serve alcohol of all kinds. And these tend to be bars, or bars attached to restaurants. "Pubs" really just didn't exist there, at least not like they do elsewhere. And they didn't have to serve food. Going to have a drink back there meant you were doing something dark, nefarious, or "bad". Alcoholic drink is (or was) considered unhealthy or even evil, and drinking attitudes aren't (or weren't) as healthy as they are elsewhere. Or at least to a different extent than elsewhere. Children are basically not allowed. Then to blessed Oregon. State law requires real food be served in all places that serve alcohol, not just pickled eggs and crisps. And there is (or was?) a differentiation between a licence to serve wine and beer and a licence to serve liquor. And children are allowed in wine/beer places, though not allowed to sit *at* the bar. And there are *pubs* there, not just bars like where I grew up. All this provided a new drinking-out experience for me when I moved there. It just struck me as healthier over all. And so I'm perhaps more fixated on this issue than I otherwise might be if I hadn't lived there for nice little period. People drink more draught beer in Oregon than in other US states, meaning they go out to drink more, I guess. Or at least it used to be so, I've no idea what's changed in the US in the last several years. In short, Oregon was a bit more "European" than Minnesconsin was, at least in terms of drinking and eating. Back on topic: I drank some more Witzgall Festbier last night.
 
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                                             Bier Ohne Grenzen (Beer Without Borders) by Uncle Jimbo on  2011-01-19 12:23:14
                                               Bier Ohne Grenzen (Beer Without Borders) by DonS on  2011-01-19 13:50:04
                                               Bier Ohne Grenzen (Beer Without Borders) by Nick B. on  2011-01-20 00:25:24
                                                 Bier Ohne Grenzen (Beer Without Borders) by Barry on  2011-01-20 02:08:42
                                                   Schwemme by DonS on  2011-01-20 08:15:31
                                                     Schwemme by Mark Andersen on  2011-01-20 09:42:57
                                                       Schwemme by john ratcliffe on  2011-01-20 10:54:27
                                                         Schwemme by Bill Miller on  2011-01-20 17:15:44
                                                           Schwemme by Barry on  2011-01-21 02:28:00
                                                           Schwemme by Nick B. on  2011-01-21 05:14:23
                                                             Schwemme by Nick B. on  2011-01-21 05:15:37
                                                             Schwemme by Barry on  2011-01-21 06:18:53
                                                               Schwemme by Uncle Jimbo on  2011-01-21 07:57:54
                                                               Schwemme by Uncle Jimbo on  2011-01-21 08:01:08
                                                                 Schwemme by DonS on  2011-01-21 09:06:47
                                                                 Schwemme by Mark Andersen on  2011-01-21 09:34:49
                                                                   Schwemme by Barry on  2011-01-21 09:47:18
                                                                     Schwemme by Uncle Jimbo on  2011-01-21 10:32:25
                                                                       Schwemme by Barry on  2011-01-21 11:54:43
                                                                         Schwemme by A Harvey on  2011-01-21 22:43:12
                                                                   Schwemme by Nick B. on  2011-01-22 03:13:18
                                                               der...das...die...Schwemme by Nick B. on  2011-01-22 03:15:51
                                                                     Schwemme by Mark Andersen on  2011-01-22 05:06:08
                                                                       Schwemme by john ratcliffe on  2011-01-22 07:33:53
                                                                 der...das...die...Schwemme by DonS on  2011-01-22 08:46:10
                                                                 der...das...die...Schwemme by Uncle Jimbo on  2011-01-22 10:18:43
                                                     Schwemme...von "Schwelle"? by Nick B. on  2011-01-26 00:35:29
                                                       "Relevant" by Nick B. on  2011-01-26 01:00:48
                                                       Schwemme...von by Uncle Jimbo on  2011-01-26 10:43:09
                                                         Schwemme...von by Nick B. on  2011-01-27 01:30:26
                                                       Schwemme...von by DonS on  2011-01-29 15:08:08
                                                         Schwemme...von by Nick B. on  2011-01-30 04:57:26